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to the surveillance of the nsa, rand paul is tapping some public sentiment, not just on the left. we had a voted in congress and republican congressman in michigan that almost gutted the collection of meta data. it failed but very close. is dorothy right about the politics? >> i really would like to think that dorothy is right about this and also chris christie is right. i worry that 9/11 and all of that is becoming a new york-new jersey, connecticut thing. those that experienced that day and it's essentially receding out in part to the country to something of an distraction because the united states has been lucky, unlike capitals in europe not to experience another terrorist event. i think, unfortunately, there may be reservoir of political support that could get behind what rand paul is saying. >> paul: how serious a risk is this within the republican party? >> to be clear, risk, we can say this is a win-win for rand paul and chris christie. they get to define themselves as spokesmen as two sides of party. why is the governor of new jersey engaging the senator or junior of kentucky. it's all
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